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Sponsor: Get 10% off Squarespace purchases (https://geni.us/BqEpf) We don't know what the cause of failure is yet. We've received a lot of leaks and credible tips and, working alongside Wendell of Level1 Techs, we have been trying to get to the bottom of Intel's CPU failures. The current trouble is how reviewers should even test these parts for the upcoming AMD Zen 5 reviews though, as any changes from Intel will need to be reflected in that comparative data. Likewise, until Intel puts out a better statement, we simply do not feel comfortable recommending 13th and 14th Gen CPUs while this matter is pending. This video talks about tips we've received relating to oxidation or potential corrosion within the silicon, specifically relating to the vias, and other tips like excessive voltage, memory speeds, unstable frequency, and failure rates. This is not a complete investigation. We are still working and do not yet have a conclusion, nor do we have full confidence in any one failure mode. If you own an Intel CPU, fill in our survey here (especially if it is unstable): https://geni.us/INTELFAIL Watch our previous video with Wendell of Level1 Techs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAE4NWoyMZk And watch Wendell's video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzHcrbT5D_Y You can also email tips to us at our tips line. The best way to support our work is through our store: https://store.gamersnexus.net/ Like our content? Please consider becoming our Patron to support us: http://www.patreon.com/gamersnexus TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Why We Can't Recommend Intel Right Now 04:57 - HELP US RESEARCH! 05:54 - The Story So Far (Recap) 08:47 - New Information 11:03 - Current Claims & Tips 15:33 - Oxidation 19:32 - Pending Failure Analysis Results 20:53 - Failure Rates 24:49 - Important Reminders 26:20 - What We Do as Reviewers ** Please like, comment, and subscribe for more! ** Links to Amazon and Newegg are typically monetized on our channel (affiliate links) and may return a commission of sales to us from the retailer. This is unrelated to the product manufacturer. Any advertisements or sponsorships are disclosed within the video ("this video is brought to you by") and above the fold in the description. We do not ever produce paid content or "sponsored content" (meaning that the content is our idea and is not funded externally aside from whatever ad placement is in the beginning) and we do not ever charge manufacturers for coverage. Follow us in these locations for more gaming and hardware updates: t: http://www.twitter.com/gamersnexus f: http://www.facebook.com/gamersnexus w: http://www.gamersnexus.net/ Steve Burke: Host, Writing, Video Editing Vitalii Makhnovets: Video Editing

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Hic duymadin degil mi bu konuyu?

Ne anlatıyon ya, forumu terk et. 13-14 ncü nesilin sorunlarını hepimiz biliyoruz, adamın işlemcisi 13400f, yani sünnetli 12600k. Bir de gerile gerile atmış şunu, cehaletinizden forum bu halde.

O dedigin C0 stepping degilse dogru sadece.

''Bilmemek değil öğrenmemek ayıp'' B0, C0 hiçbir sürümde sorun yok. Olay sadece yüksek voltaj ile ilgiliydi, 65 watt 13400f. Bir tane bozulup, garantiye gitmiş örneği yok. Bu da son cevabım, bilmediğiniz konular hakkında da konuşmayın.

Cevabıma karşılık google'da aratıp revizyon farklarına dair açılmış iki tane konu görüp, buraya kopyala yapıştır ile olmuyor.

iyi akşamlar.

C0 stepping 13. nesil olarak adlandirilan islemcilerle ayni prosesten cikma dolayisiyla tamamen ayni sartlar altinda.

Benchmarklarda yuksek puan versin diye anakart ureticilerinin istedikleri kadar yuksek gerilim verebilmesine izin veren ve islemcinin cekebilecegi akimi asla sinirlandirmayan intel. Temel olarak channel ve gate arasindaki oksit kaplamasini bozuyor yuksek voltaj neticede yalitkan madde yok dusuk gerilim var.

Intel'in 13 ve 14. nesillerdeki tek sikintisi bu degil ama. Level1techs diye bir kanal var, orada Wendell isimli bir adam var. Bu voltaj sikintisinin herkes tarafindan konusuldugu sirada baska bir sorun daha olduguna dair guvendigi kisilerden ciddi duyumlar aldigini soylemisti. Sanirim 2 ay sonra da oksidasyon sikintisi tamamen ortaya cikmisti. Intel yatirimcilarina bu konuyu aciklamadigi icin ciddi hukuki sikinti yasayabilecek durumda hatta.

Saatli bomba dememin sebebi oksidasyon sikintisi. Yoksa yeni alinmis herhangi bir islemci zaten yeni biosla kullanilacagindan (yani umutlar bu yonde) yuksek gerilimden dolayi hasar gormesi beklenmiyor. Oksidasyon kaynakli sikinti laptop ciplerinde bile kendini gosterebiliyor cunku belirli bir donemde o prosesten cikan butun ciplerin etkilenmis olmasi riski var.

Konuyu ogren sonra millete cahil de.

Adam direkt çeviri kullanıp bana atmış, hocam ne içiyorsanız bırakın. Yarı iletken mühendisiyim, forumda da beni bilen tanıyan var arm'da yıllarca çalıştım. Beni rahatsız etmeyin, sizin adınıza utanıyorum zira.

Isin icerisindeki bir yari iletken muhendisi olarak via oksidasyonu sikintisi yokmus gibi davranman cok acayip.

Her sekilde bu isi senden daha iyi bilmem mumkun degil. Eger oksidasyon sikintisi yalansa konuyu aciklarsan bizler de ogrenmis oluruz. Ben mevzuyu basindan itibaren gamersnexus ve level1techs'in haberlerinden takip ettim eger yanlislari varsa soylersen dogrusunu ogreniriz.

Basit bir dille anlatayım, benim sözleşmem var yarı iletkenler konusunda detaylı konuşmam. Problem 13-14 ncü nesil 125 watt işlemcilerde görüldü. Pl2 253 watt normalde, anakart üreticileri sınır bırakmadığı için oldu. Suçlu Intel değil anakart üreticileriydi, herkes Intel'e hücum etti. Aksi olsa, bios ile düzeltmenin mümkün olmadığını, düzeltilirse de büyük performans kayıpları olacağını bilin.

Oksidasyon yani paslanma ise büyük yalandı. Oraya hiç girmeyeyim, çıkamayız.

Performans kayiplari %15 civarinda falandi ortalama. Yeni default ayarlarla islemciler reklami yapilan islemciler olmaktan cikmisti hatta, class action dava acilmasi da mumkundu tuketiciler tarafindan anladigim kadariyla.

Sunu buldum su an ama daha once de baska bir GN videosunda Intel'in anakart OEMleri icin haziladigi slaytlar vardi, PL0'da sure siniri falan yoktu, OEMler icin hicbir turlu ust sinir yoktu hatta, PLO sure siniri dahil. Bulabilirsem o slayti da ekleyecegim bulamadim simdi o videoyu:

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SUPPORT US! Grab our NEW colorful Project & Solder Mats: https://store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-project-soldering-mat or our copper-plated mule mugs! https://store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-copper-plated-stainless-steel-mule-mug-thermal-conductivity-of-copper (use code THISISFINE for 10% off until August 14). This video covers Intel's terrible responses and what we believe are misleading, slimy, and shady actions in relation to its 13th & 14th Gen defects. The video contains a full timeline of events for Intel's colossal failures while also recapping its latest #INTC Earnings call from August 1, 2024. These defects include impact of voltage, such as high VID, on CPU longevity and degradation, plus the prior oxidation concerns. The best way to support our work is through our store: https://store.gamersnexus.net/ -- we paused ALL publishing for a full week to research and complete this piece. Please support us and use code THISISFINE to get a temporary discount! The new solder mats are in stock & shipping now, as are the mule mugs! Like our content? Please consider becoming our Patron to support us: http://www.patreon.com/gamersnexus TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intel's Shady Behavior 05:00 - THISISFINE 06:06 - Intel's Worst Day & Earnings 11:57 - Investigation Notes 12:37 - TIMELINE of FAILURE 23:45 - Intel Doubles-Down on Bad Take 25:33 - TIMELINE Continued 27:52 - Silently Changing Statements 28:55 - Intel's Terrible Response 42:10 - GN Ceases Comms with Intel on This Issue ** Please like, comment, and subscribe for more! ** Links to Amazon and Newegg are typically monetized on our channel (affiliate links) and may return a commission of sales to us from the retailer. This is unrelated to the product manufacturer. Any advertisements or sponsorships are disclosed within the video ("this video is brought to you by") and above the fold in the description. We do not ever produce paid content or "sponsored content" (meaning that the content is our idea and is not funded externally aside from whatever ad placement is in the beginning) and we do not ever charge manufacturers for coverage. Follow us in these locations for more gaming and hardware updates: t: http://www.twitter.com/gamersnexus f: http://www.facebook.com/gamersnexus w: http://www.gamersnexus.net/ Steve Burke: Host, Writing, Editing Vitalii Makhnovets: Editing Jeremy Clayton: Research Tim Phetdara: Editing

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Baska bir firmanin nerede yanlis yaptigini anlatmani nasil bir NDA engelleyebilir bilmiyorum ama anlatabilecegin her seyden en azindan ben faydalanirim. Oksidasyon yalandiysa neden intel dogruladi?

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Sponsor: Thermalright Frozen Prism 360 on Amazon - https://geni.us/FUqbQC Intel has finally published a statement about the instability of its Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs in the 13th & 14th Gen families of CPUs. The Intel 14900K, 13900K, and their alternative CPUs in the same generations now have a confirmed set of issues. Intel has formally acknowledged in a reddit post that its 13 Series CPUs had oxidation issues during at least one point of manufacturing history. It did not adequately define a date range. Intel also confirmed that it has excessive voltage issues on 13th & 14th Gen CPUs alike. The company has failed to adequately reinforce its support "commitments" for customers and has failed to give date ranges or serial numbers to help consumers identify if they are affected. Intel hasn't stated to what extent different CPUs are affected. To our understanding, K-SKUs are hit the hardest. Intel is putting together a microcode patch to allegedly resolve the excess voltage issue. We are not yet sure if it will impact performance. The patch will be out in August, at which point we will re-evaluate the CPUs. The oxidation issue was, according to Intel, resolved at some undefined time period within the 365-day span that is 2023. The best way to support our work is through our store: https://store.gamersnexus.net/ Grab a PC building Modmat to directly help fund our reporting! https://store.gamersnexus.net/products/large-modmat-gn15-anniversary Watch our initial Oxidation coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeubeCIwRw And our video with Wendell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAE4NWoyMZk Watch our AMD Zen 5 architectural coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNlPnruLfjM Like our content? Please consider becoming our Patron to support us: http://www.patreon.com/gamersnexus TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intel Admits Oxidation & Voltage Issues 03:52 - Intel's Statement 06:38 - What Intel Needs to Do 09:56 - Oxidation Also a Problem 13:35 - Public Pressure from Partners 19:44 - What YOU Should Do & FAQ ** Please like, comment, and subscribe for more! ** Links to Amazon and Newegg are typically monetized on our channel (affiliate links) and may return a commission of sales to us from the retailer. This is unrelated to the product manufacturer. Any advertisements or sponsorships are disclosed within the video ("this video is brought to you by") and above the fold in the description. We do not ever produce paid content or "sponsored content" (meaning that the content is our idea and is not funded externally aside from whatever ad placement is in the beginning) and we do not ever charge manufacturers for coverage. Follow us in these locations for more gaming and hardware updates: t: http://www.twitter.com/gamersnexus f: http://www.facebook.com/gamersnexus w: http://www.gamersnexus.net/ Steve Burke: Host, Writing Vitalii Makhnovets: Video Editing

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Ogrenmek icin soruyorum. Amacim senle tartismak falan degil tartisamayacagimin farkindayim.

Simdi buraya birseyler yazsam 30 gun ceza yerim o yuzden yazmayacagim.

30 gün ceza da çekilmez yev..

Hocam teşekkür ederim, iyi ki varsınız. Fikrim olmasa konuşmam, resmen ayar yiyoruz konuyla alakası olmayan insanlardan. Küfürüm için de herkesten özür dilerim.